Anyone ever into Pancrase? it started in japan and it's what started what eventually became UFC, pride and whatever else you see today.

Also does anyone know any good sites or clips to videos for beginners who just wanna learn the lingo and what move is what? thanks for the help

http://mma.tv/tuf/index.cfm?fid=1

i'm a huge mma fan..i like how fighters are so well cross trained.

u never know whats gunna happen and everyone is beatable. maybe except fedor lol

all i can say is don't miss the Henderson vs Jackson fight this week-end !

What a boring fight and very questionable and terrible decisions.

is it not live? o_O

ufc 75 on right now at spike tv

they are fighting in England. Wow i don't know what will Crocop will do next....

QUINTON JACKSON vs. DAN HENDERSON UNDER WAY.

money on PRIDE!

^it's actually already over a while ago

its on for me now. looks like gay sex

Bullshido.com

Plus pancrase is from greece not japan.

Norifumi Yamamoto is the mini cooper O_O too bad he got injuried and missed the tryouts for the Olympics, but he won k-1 heros this year. =D

Well the largest MMA forum is sherdog, you can always check that out

I haven't been up to date with MMA lately, ever since Pride was bought I've lost some interest.

WOW, what a great finish for MMA in 2007! We have some AMAZING fights coming up!

What fight are you all looking forward to most?

UFC 79

Chuck Liddell vs. Wanderlei Silva
GSP vs Matt Hughes
Lyoto Machida vs Thierry Rameau Sokoudjou

M1/Hustle/Former Pride's Yarennoka!

Shinya Aoki vs. Gesias JZ Calcavanti
Hong Man Choi vs. Fedor Emelianenko (rumored)
Hidehiko Hasegawa vs. Hayato Mach Sakurai

K1-Dynamite 2007

Norifumi Kid Yamamoto vs. Rani Yahya
Kazushi Sakuraba vs. Masakatsu Funaki

WEC Outside the Cage

Urijah Faber vs. Jeff Curran
Paulo Filho vs. Chael Sonnen
Cub Swanson vs. Jens Pulver

^Since GSP is where i'm from, i'll be looking foward to his fight ! and also the Liddell vs Silva

Nice, so will you be catching the UFC live in Montreal next year? That should be awesome - especially if it's GSP vs. Serra (provided he gets past Hughes)

I'm REALLY hyped for Silva v Liddell. The stare down alone will be worth the viewing price!

so they announced a UFC event in Montreal for 08 ? If so, i'm definately going.

Nice. Dana White "promised" to bring UFC to Montreal in 08. I don't know how much that's worth, but hey, I'm finally going to see Liddell v Silva too, so I guess I can kinda, sorta, maybe...nah, I still don't trust him. But we can all hope for the best!

i know a little late but to add .... UFC was started b/c of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu b/c the Gracie family wanted to prove BJJ was an effective style compared to the other MAs

honestly i want to know who can defeat fedor!

no one can! he's so beast.


anyone catch the silva vs liddell (UFC 79 fight)? I was sooo disappointed. Liddell was obviously gonna win but man...I was rooting for silva!

Silva v Liddell was great. Chuck was faster than I'd seen him in a long time - Wanderlei's wild style was no match, even though he gave it his all. Too bad, cuz I really like Wandy.

I thought a lot of fights this past week were EXCELLENT.

Bustamante v Takamoto was a HUGE surprise and was a great fight to watch.

Ishida v Melendez - incredible action

Misaki v Akiyama - although I felt bad for Akiyama after his loss, it was an amazing KO to see. Poor Akiyama, he never should have cheated, ESPECIALLY against Sakuraba - now everyone hates him

GSP v Hughes - everything I thought it would be, with GSP looking amazing and Matt Hughes looking like...well...Mark Hughes (unless you believe all his hype, lol)

and of course, Liddell v Silva.

hopefully GSP next fight will be in Montreal !

i'm talking about the japanese fight organization pancrase, not the origin of the word itself, anyway if you guys get ImaginAsian TV on your cable, you can check out the show i co-host with JOsh BArnett

http://iatv.tv/pancrase

awesome - how'd you land such a cool job? how's Josh in person?

you guys watch penn vs joe daddy today?

it pretty much went the way i thought it would with bj dominating.


UFC 82 silva vs henderson - who do guys think will take it? its gonna be freaking awesome!

Pancrase? Neva heard of this, ima check it out

man yesterdays UFC fights were crazy. especially brock lesnar vs frank mire. i though brock had him wen he wuz on top of him just pounding his face in but he his inexperience got to him because he could of gone for some kind of hold on his ankles but he is the won who got caught with it.

All i see Lesnar doing is just ground pounding non stop, when Mir put Lesnar in guard all he did was try to punch him out of guard. Watch every position Lesnar is just punching non stop, he got to wild with the punches and hit Mir in the back of the head.

well thats wut ufc is about n that how brock should of won. again if he put in a ankle lock when he had his legs in the air it would of been over for mir.

Ehh, it wasn`t that entertaining of a fight. It was over hyped.

FROM BRRRRRRRRRRRRRAZIL! ANTOOOOOOOONIOOOOOOOO RODRRRRRRRRIGOOOOOO NOGUIEEEEERRRRRRRRRA!!!

Awesome, awesome night. IMO Noguiera is tied with Fedor for #1 heavyweight in the world right now. Granted, I don't think he'll ever BEAT Fedor, but still, his fights are just legendary. Let him have "Handy" Couture!

Brock has some heavy hands. He roughed up Frank Mir as much as Hong Man Choi roughed up Fedor - both of those guys did serious damage in just a few minutes. Too bad his sub defense is still weak. He'll definitely be someone to watch.

Oh yeah, did I just read that Brock should've caught MIR in an ankle lock? LOL. Most high level jiu-jitsu guys don't tap to ankle locks, even from other jiu-jitsu guys, much less one from someone as inexperienced as Lesnar. But maybe in another year or two, with Brock's power, he'll be able to throw on some sick subs, even with imperfect technique.

haha yeah big nog prolly has THE TOUGHEST CHIN in all of mma. the guy can seriously take a beating and pull off a win. amazing.

not trying to be a fedor nuthugger but i don't think hong man choi did any damage to fedor during their fight. lesnar did some serious damage. if i recall correctly, hmc had 1 clean shot a fedor but that was about it. the marks on fedor's face came from the canvas when he was using it as leverage for the armbar.

man, brock lesnar is one scary dude. just..powerpunching all the way. got to hand it to mir for taking on him.

can't wait for the silva vs henderson!

Yah, its gonna rock! I think it is a very good match up. Silva will be tested for the first time since his Pride days. There is a serious lack of competition in the middleweight division in the UFC imo. Light-heavy is prolly the most stacked... shogun, wanderlei, rampage, chuck

i can't wait for UFC 83 ! Hopefully i'll get tickets to watch GSP fight, the city is going to be crazy

No way, those marks came from the canvas? Guess I should rewatch the fight. The first time I saw it I remember seeing Fedor try to body-lock throw the goliath, winding up on the bottom, having bombs dropped on him and thinking to myself "He's in deep doodoo if he doesn't do something quick"

I think Anderson Silva can rough up Hendo if he keeps it standing - I'd say he's quite a bit quicker than Misaki, and Misaki made Hendo look AWFUL at 183 (although no real damage).

ITS ON TOMORROW! WAR HENDO!

lol, wow, Anderson Silva DEMOLISHED Dan Henderson. Poor guy, Silva's just too incredible a fighter. I wonder who Dangerous Dan should fight next?

Anderson said he wants to fight Roy Jones Jr. in a boxing match if he gets past Hendo. Doubt the UFC will let that happen though. He's probably fighting Okami next.

As for Dan, it's gotta suck losing both his belts like that. I guess they can put him up against Tanner next.

nah not Tanner. Henderson will prolly just stay at 205.

I wanna see Anderson Silva fight the following:
Yushin Okami
Dennis Kang
Paulo Filho (never gonna happen)
BJ Penn (lol hed prolly do it too)
Frank Shamrock

I think Silva would prolly beat them all but I wanna see it. Especially Silva vs Filho. He should then move up to lhw cuz I heard he walks around at 200+. And plus he gave Henderson more of a beating than Rampage did.

Those would be good fights, but I've seen enough of Anderson vs grapplers. I wanna see him against an elite striker next, and see how he does standing.

Only problem is most of the elite strikers probably won't make it up the ranks to face Anderson...

"elite strikers" = K1? manhoef, bonjasky, aerts, etc?

yeah that would be good too but silva would prolly just submit them? i dunno... maybe a match in K1. that would be better... just to see how elite anderson silva's striking is.

Yeah, I'd much rather see Silva in a K1 match than in a boxing match. His odds would be much, much better. In MMA, I'd also like to see him fight Denis Kang, or maybe even Akiyama. Since neither will ever happen, who knows. Maybe Houston Alexander at LHW?

I love mma, some of the ultimate fighter series are good. I liked the tito ortiz, shamrock series.

Anderson in K1 would be crazy. Anderson vs Manhoef I would pay to see.


I don't know why so many people want to see him fight Kang, I'd rather watch him fight Cung Le to be honest.

Because Kang has actually fought people of merit (ie. Suloev, Ninja, Gono). Cung Le, not so much. Kang is actually one of the most well-rounded fighters in all of MMA. He may have some chin issues, but he's a solid fighter with an excellent skill-set.

I wouldn't mind seeing Silva v Cung Le, but it's hard to tell if it'll be interesting until he faces a legitimate threat - Frank Shamrock is an excellent start.

ya true, Kang is a great fighter. I wouldn't mind seeing it, but just not too excited over it.


Anyone saw Gomi / Ludwig ? I wonder how that went.

Gomi broke Ludwig's nose. Heres a link:

http://www.mmatko.com/takanori-gomi-vs-dua...-video-sengoku/

here you go..

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4m1ge_ta...ne-ludwig_sport

i knew it was going to stop like this when i saw the cut.