well im a long time (5 years) tae kwon do 2nd degree freak...
boxer and learned self-defence for a LONG time..
so if u have a question for wat to do in an emergency situation just ask me
and hopefully i can answer

hahah wow okie okie
quick question: what would be the most COOLEST EFFECTING AWESOME-ST way to keeeel someone (or just knock him out for a good hour or more XD) if someone is bothering or wants to molest/rape you or something lyke that? kekeke
(BESIDES KNEEING HIM IN THE GROIN OR SOMETHING !! XD)
i only took some months of karate, not tae kwon do so a response to the situation above would be interesting LOL XD

Sorry, but TKD is useless in self defense.

@ asianami

Most effective way? There's really only one way to go about it. If someone attacks you, grab their body for leverage and ram your knee into their groin. It's an instant KO.

LOL i know that one but it's nice to knock some other methods too, even if it might not be so effective compared to the one above HAHAAHA XDDD;;

i said i learned self-defence -____-


well theres 2 ways your can make then suffer pain... our u can hit their pressure points and make em pass out or make them suffer xD and the pain one is easier

1. grab there hair and pull and lift your knee up and BAM!!! there face is gonna be like...dayumm..
2. grab their hands and get your hand and put force into your hand let it be straight and hit em in the adams apple..lemme tell u -___-
the necks gonna be SOOO swollen up its gonna look likea tumor..

and the people can recover from a hit in the groin -___-
they can still move



if u get em at the right point u they cant move...
but if u hit it..sometimes they can die..

LOL OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH SWEEET
SO SAVING YOUR POST & PIC IN MY COMPUTER!
Laaa ~ I shall now experiment these moves on my brothers
and verify to you if they work or not . n__n;
NVM MY PARENTS ARE HOME! >_____>

OH btw in the second tip, do you mean hit with your hand
lyke your palm to the adams apple? lyke that?
cuz at first i thought you meant hit them at the adams apple
with your fist -0-

lol they must have some good energy to get back up from
a kick in ther groin ORRR it wasn't effective lol XDDD

why don't you just post everything you know in first post XD

well I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE ADAMS APPLE. ty.

curve your fingers a LITTLE and put strenth and hit em with the thumb side of your hand...

and for the groin..wat if shes a girl o.0



oh..i cant think of all of them xD
that'll take me forever..




GUYS::: to increase your reflexes work, MEDITATE!!! i no it sounds wierd but yea..ohh yea and if u meditate for 30 minutes EVERYDAY you can live longer

I've taken tons of groin shots, and let me tell you from experience - it's really not that bad after a while. lol, I'm NOT a pervert. You're better off going for the eyes or the throat. Oh, and just to contribute a question to this thread and to cjsedthat since he probably has his own expertise and way of doing things...If someone's significantly bigger and stronger than me and gets me in a bear hug with both my arms trapped and lifted up into the air, what's your defense? I'd personally bite their face, but that's gruesome...

target her boobs then instead of her groin LOL XD
it hurts more... NOT THAT I WOULD KNOW OR ANYTHING BY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE !!
................ *cough cough* >__________>
err i can't quite grasp the curve the fingers - thumb thing.
pictures please? o_o;

What would you do if a person had a gun to your head? Your answer will be derived from experience that you have with self defense.

also wouldn't like going for their throat
stop the flow of air for a second or two?
and like your elbow is your strongest point

...i read it from a magazine or something

what would u do if a car was comin for you
=o

^^ jump out of the way as heck!
i would do that.

um... what you would you do if he grab you from behind,
and his swaying you back and forth?
trying to make you fall down to the ground?

i would panic. so... how do i try to hurt him?
like... if i had a backpack on, it would be heavy and harder for me to get in control.

im a college student, i aint taking no chances.
so.. just give me a scenario and what i should do.
the basic college student mugging.

don't reveal our secrets!!

A friend accidentally elbowed me in the boob and damn! my head and boob was buzzing for 5 minutes

You're talking too big. TKD is not "useless" in self defense. Sorry. (I have only done some TKD, maybe for about 5 months, but I also have done A LOT of boxing and muy thai (non traditional))

And a knee to the groin is hardly an instant KO lol.




Groin shots should only be used as an attack that stuns the opponent, if you're going to hit someone in the groin for any reason, don't half-ass it. Follow up with another attack that will finish it, like a headbutt to the face. Then make a run for it to get help. (If you're getting mugged or something)

Now if you were in a bear hug by someone bigger and stronger, chance are I would headbutt them, but most likely they will be doing a bear hug where their face is looking left or right and on your chest, or they're behind you. Chances are you're talking about a bearhug where they're in front of you, since you said you would try and bite them. So I would for sure bite them, it's probably the most simple way to get them to let go of you, especially if you bit off a nice chunk of their scalp. If you're talking about when they're behind you, try and use your heel to hit them in the groin, or the kneecap, but a headbutt could also work if the situation allows you too. If any case their superman or tolerant to pain, you should hope you have a weapon or some object you could use to puncture the side of their body. Basically the idea of it all, when you're in a bear hug by someone who is trying to crush you, is that you have to do anything necessary to get out of what can possibly disable you.

you bend your knees and lift your arms...no matter HOW strong u can do it.. and grab their wrist with your opposite hands so its like an X and flip em..




shulda said before KARATE CHOP


if your reflexes and quickness is good enuff theres a pretty good chance you can twist their wrist and make the gun drop. or you hook kick it outta their hands
1.if u have a gun and they both have a gun..you point the gun to your opponents gun and shoot the gun..it will hurt like crazy for the opponent too, then shoot em in the leg.
2.if they got u hugged and gun to your head in liek a hostage way..your get your elbows poke em to their ribs and just fall on them..and try to get the gun outta thei hands


well...thats like the part of the neck where theres a little crater..



ELBOWS!!!: u can break a guys arm REALLY easily by simple grabbing their arms 180 degrees and pull and punch there elbows REAL hard..i swear u'll break it


-___-
jump?


well if it grabbing your from the shoulder your take a step back (opposing your enemies foot) get your arm and put it behind their arm thats strangling your and BRING DOWN..
remember to put their hooked arm hooked in your arm pits...they wont be able to move..

2. if grabbing your by your whole body as in arms your bend your knees slightly grab arms in a X form so right hand holds left hand and then flip REAL hard..

[edit] sigh, nevermind.

Excellent answer! I always prefer a bite to a headbutt in a real self-defense scenario because 1. It's less potential harm to me, 2. Less chance of failure, 3. A constant and immediately threatening attack that WILL get attention put towards it.



That sounds fine IF I was on the ground. But like I said, this is for a scenario where I'm being dangled in mid-air. If I'm on the ground, I can most likely get someone into a really simple, and really ugly hip toss and get them to the ground by using my head pushed into theirs to create an inch of space, turning my body to the side and directly into them, thus relieving the pressure on my arms and performing a really ugly hip-toss. Otherwise, since they're most likely grabbing higher up on my arms if they want to stay level with me, I'll just wrap whatever I have left of my arms low around their waist, pull them in tight, crumple them in and walk them down.

Once it's on the ground, it's much easier to pop out of these maneuvers because if you're calm and relaxed, you can utilize leverage and sudden explosive movements.



For this one, I'm having a hard time picturing it. Is he swaying you back and forth in the air and then trying to bring you down? If he is, the fact that you can't use your legs 100% is the most dangerous thing. You'd have to reach behind with your legs and hook them behind his knees to stop the swaying and to stop him from potentially slamming you. Then you'd be at a stalemate where he'd eventually want to drop you back to your feet so he could finish mugging you.

Ok, so since your feet are on the ground now anyway, this is what I personally would do if someone got me from behind, swayed me back and forth to take me down, and I was wearing a backpack. WOW, what a doozy of a situation!

1. Immediately create a wider base. Move your feet out so that you're in the most stable position you can be in. Also, bend your knees and stay slightly lower too. Do both of these quickly and suddenly. It's really hard to push someone down from higher up, which is why football players are always taught to tackle low, near the hips or even lower, Sumo wrestlers need to be flexible enough to get lower than their opponent, etc.

2. Now for the bear hug part. Advice is always different depending on whether the guy has your arms trapped or not. The bear hug should already be fairly loose since you're wearing a backpack. If he had your arms trapped, by the time you do your sudden wide base change, his grip should be even weaker. Now there are two options from here. You can either bend over and try reach between your legs and grab his (RISKY!) or since you now have a little bit of space, try and turn your body to the side.

A) Bend over, reach between your legs, grab one of his legs, and use all the energy in your legs and back to pull his leg up from under him. I've never seen anyone NOT fall from this once you have their leg. It's risky because if you take too long trying to get his leg, he'll just move it out of the way. Or since you're not bent over, he can just push you over to the side.

The next option involves suddenly changing his momentum and energy direction. (it's easier than it sounds)

Example - If I'm pushing against you, your initial reaction is to push back. If you don't, you'll get pushed back and maybe even fall over. So it's going to be your natural reaction to try to push back with the same or even more force that I'm pushing you with.

So in this instance, you push back suddenly. There'll be a split second where he needs to redirect his energy to push back against you. Then as he's starting to push back into you, you now can guide his momentum by sharply turning your body to the side and bending at the knees, bringing him to the ground. This uses his momentum, your sudden change in direction, and the fact that you're now at a lower level to create a perfect scenario for a simple judo throw.

Keep in mind, neither of these are easy enough to remember while you're getting mugged. Join a class, or try it on your friends (on grass or padded mats!!!). The more you do it, the more second nature it becomes. Plus, understanding the mechanics of the body really helps out. For instance, if you know that the human body almost ALWAYS goes where the head goes, you'll be able to better control people. Or that if you want to stop someone's arms, the best places to grab them are at the wrists or the biceps.

Whenever you're being attacked from behind, there's an extra sense of panic, because clearly you didn't see it coming. Luckily, if the person didn't already knock you over the head, and you at least immediately know to either take a low and wide stance, or if he's got you in mid-air, to hook your legs behind his knees as quickly as you can, you'll have a few seconds to plot your next move. The absolute best thing to do, of course, is to try NEVER to get attacked from behind. Stay alert when walking anywhere, try to always get a sense of what's going on around you, and don't be afraid to turn around if you feel the least bit suspicious. You're MUCH better off for self-defense in face-to-face situations.

P.S. If someone has a bear-hug on you from behind, and your arms ARE NOT trapped, it's actually one of the easiest holds in all of grappling to get out of. I've had 200+ lb fighters not be able to resist this simple, really stupid looking motion. Grab one of his wrists with both of your hands. Hold on tight, think about sending his arm both down and away, and then...SHIMMY! Shimmy back and forth, with both your body and your hands, and eventually, his grip will come loose. Weird huh? Don't forget it. It's useful!

like i said...u can lift oyur arms up from a bear hug and you'll escape -__-
and the pressure point that the majority says hurts is the joint in your skull...push with your thumb and push/in and to the right and puch more.
IT"LL HURT LIKE CRAZY

i dnt have an scenario question, but im just curious, have u ever been in emergency situations where you really used your skills?

I'd like to see your skills in action. Talk is cheap.Anyways, no matter your skill level in most situations you would not be able to use them.I'm sorry to say but if someone was using street fighting, even decent TKD practitioners or whatever won't be able to do much.Here is a test. Try to 540 someone. See how they react.I'd like to see your skills in action. Talk is cheap.Anyways, no matter your skill level in most situations you would not be able to use them.I'm sorry to say but if someone was using street fighting, even decent TKD practitioners or whatever won't be able to do much.Here is a test. Try to 540 someone. See how they react.

I've been in only 3 really serious street fights in my life. I've also been in countless sparring matches at about 75% force with only a mouth guard as protection. The only difference between the two for me is that in a street fight, anything goes.

I don't know if a street fight counts as an "emergency situation", but I've actually put SOME of what I've learned throughout my life to good use. Deafz is right about one thing - it's actually very difficult to have to think about what kind of move you're going to use on someone. When you're in a fight, you want to put yourself into a more advantageous position as quickly as possible and by any means necessary. When you're squaring off, you're equal. When the guy is charging you, you're in a less advantageous position. When you perform an attack and leave yourself open, you're in a less advantageous position. There are a lot of variables to consider.

I take the most basic tools of what I've learned into what's been, for me, a fairly safe and easy way to beat the average Joe trying to attack me on the street.

1. Wide base to prevent getting tackled, tight defense around the head, bob and weave past punches to get in close
2. Grab the opponent and then get them clinched in tight so they can't hit me with their fists effectively

And then I just figure out what I want to do from there, since I have some time to do whatever I want. Most average people can NOT get free from a good clinch game, and it's really, really difficult to attack someone who has you clinched up and under control.

There are lots of options for me from that clinch position - throw knees to the groin, transition to a Muay Thai clinch and throw knees and elbows to the head, hip-throw them to the ground, get them in a standing submission like a guillotine, etc. None of these take all that much coordination, and are actually pretty effective in a street fight with people who are intent on hurting you.

This is just from my own personal experience. I honestly believe that you always have to be in a position of control, or else there's too much left to chance. If I punch you, and you punch me at the exact same time (which is extremely difficult to avoid if it happens btw), who's to say I'll still be standing? I might get knocked out or seriously injured! Everything is about transitioning so that you're in control of the situation, which will make you a bit more calm, which will usually lead to a successful self defense scenario.

yes...actually

1. i was at the airport and this guy was walking away with my bad at the baggage claim (guatemala) so i go to him and im like " this is my bag" in spanish
and he's like no. no. no.
and it had my name on it..so it was pretty obvious and then i just took it and then he grabs me on the shoulder really hard and before the secuitrity came i used my oposing foot bgin arm behin him and push down techinique and got him in the temple so he couldnt move
in a minute the secuirity came and idk wat happened to him...but i do bet he had a gun on him..

not really self-defence but..

2. i was getting a drink from the deli and my (girl) friend was walking her dog so couldnt come in..so i was paying and i see a guy coming outta the car and my friend looked pretty scared so i went out and he was like
trynna rape the girl so..i just grabbed his temple (i use it the most) and pushed in the hardest and he eventually ran away..but we had his liscence plate number xD so i bet he's in some kind of thing...but not jail

3. i was in school and i've been literally threatned by my woodshop teacher..i was messing with the stapler on the wood to make something and somehing musta annoyed him, he pusheds into my joingt in my backneck and makes me turn around and grabs the stapler (the really powerful one) and says
want to get stapled on your chest in a really pissing me off way...
and i chopped the thing outta his hand first and hit him in the head with the wood i was messin wit and i ran to the advisor..eventually the dude got fired -___-
and a few stitches

i no this all sounds like BS and some of u won't beilieve me..but this is some true stuff

yea the four weakest points in the human body are the eyes throat groin and knees. The front of your knee is preety strong but one hard kick to the side and you'll be hurting.

^ that was my question, i accidently posted it in my sister's account

actually your scenario number 3 was quite funny even though it was probably something serious i asked because i wanna take up some self defence class or any type of martial arts (though ppl say you cant defend urself with m/a, its just an "art") so i can gain some confidence in traveling alone during the night - and so my parents can stop worrying bout me when im going out and so forth - -'' so yeahh i was jst wondering if it actually worked or can be put to use. sorry.. going abit off topic lol

anyway, from the top of my head: how would u handle a situation where your walking and someone form behind puts a knife against your back (uno.. to rob your bag or something)

one thing that many people dont no is that
RUNNING!!! is self-defence too

but in this kind of situation, where your unarmed and your opponent has a knife to your back...this is a hard one
this is basically 30% luck and 70% skill
so you'll have to work on your reflexes..
there's this one kinda martial arts (fillipino martial arts) its where you fight with knives...
but not a lot of places in US teaches

ANYHOW

1. you must try to strike the knife outta his hand..try sliding left to right real fast and just take down/axe kick down the knife and then you grab the knife and get low and swing your leg into his ankles..he will fall..if u do not wanna get him into jail just threaten him with the knife, he will run away..

2.this one is all reflexes... wait until he attacks wen he tries to stab you juke to the left and round house kick him anywhere u want.
this is most commonly used in olympic sparring too

MOST IMPORTANTLY!!!

if he has the knife TO your back like u feel it...all i can say is go do a cartwheel and then you fight him how i told u ^

i think which class you should take if your willing to take classes is JUDO
if your trying to fight with NO armory

ALL IN ALL the most intelligent and BEST martial arts for fighting with ease is
taekyun-original tae kwon do
its crazy http://youtube.com/watch?v=OxXS94Qrpkw

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8_eEBZddrXM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=__s5XNGCZ3M

i'll post all vids of the best kinda martial arts right now..

judo-http://youtube.com/watch?v=scQ7TRDL03s

extreme martial arts (street fighting)-http://youtube.com/watch?v=z0qJDKh_6D8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_gzfjBUtPeY
u dont wanna mess with these guys

TKD-http://youtube.com/watch?v=RAhEvJMSlHg

hapkido-http://youtube.com/watch?v=0yZihj8Fi98

muay thai-http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q45LKaGnVrY

karate-http://youtube.com/watch?v=knjpsjbQftk

kung fu/bruce lee-http://youtube.com/watch?v=5q9kYKtvYU0

shaolin-http://youtube.com/watch?v=3JgMmj4XnEI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ibiGZt9yLiQ

jendo-http://youtube.com/watch?v=z2q94aC-EOs


all of u no this video xD

http://youtube.com/watch?v=D2kJZOfq7zk

its extreme martial arts too
its crazy..

thanks guys for all the info and links, i'll be sure to check em out.

LOL running, not as fast as i use to be and our sport teacher said something bout our brain responding in Flight or Fight, i'd rather fight, but yeah i guess i can run too. that carthweel thing, never thought about that. if only i know how to do it. one day one day *nodds

im pretty chubby..and if i can do it, u can do it, no doubt

some people in fights forget to do wat they no how to do..one reason why most people end up losing..
or u can always try biting their arms or something..
on TV there was a guy that got bit and theres a crater on his arm -__-

you guys be careful with the whole punching at the adam's apple ... only use it in a life or death situation! b/c there is a bone there called the Hyoid bone... w/ enough force you can collapse this and result in killing your attacker **no joke**.. so don't be using it on your sibling!!

yea...i forgot to say...
these are LIFE OR DEATH situations..

your neck has small bones, making your neck wobly and flexible..
but if u hit it RIGHT your can just kill em

yeah..i gotta question...
im gonna be moving to guatemala and im going on a visit in 3 days and after reading this
http://guatemala.usembassy.gov/recent_incidents.html
im kinda paranoid..wat would i do if i had a situation where a bandito comes with a machete of worse, a gun...
wat the hell would i do?

i want to get a mini sword type thing..im not sure wat its called...its looks likea sword but i think its knife like..
my master carries one.but its his is all wood..
wat is it called?

I just want to say that martial arts rule!!!!!! THEY RULE!!!!!
Wish I could have done kungfu:( but alas...tis not so.

but i did karate so i guess I can live with that:)

I've studied many different kinds of martial arts and can say if you really want to be able to defend yourself i would suggest studying Tai Chi Chuan (Chen form), Judo, and Akido - especially the women out there. "Hard" externally-centric martial arts like Karate, Muay Thai, etc, are not the best for self defense for everyone.

Tanto most likey or a wakazashi

Btw you should not give out Self defense information your a second degree and your what 15-16 and you are describing XMA type MA as effective fighting? all your info is theoretical at best if you have not used in a real life or alive enviroment all you say is null.
Kid simply put you self defense techniques will get some one killed, a cartwheel when some one has a knife to your back wtf is that?

your knife defense is lacking in no way should you kick at a knife even in the hands of a novice a knife is an amazing force multiplier... your best bet while fighting some one with a knife is to either run or find a improvised weapon. if you must fight a individual with a knife do whatever you can to gain an advantage take the high ground have the sun face your back and your oponents eyes, fight in a narrow space were a knives slashing attacks become useless. the basic strategy in a knife fight is to dissarm the individual your best bet is to measure his reach and cut in to the neutral zone between the knife gain control over the opponents knife by any means neccesary to accomplish your olny goal survival.

cj if your really intrested into martial arts emphasis on martial i invite you to join us korean martial artist at bullshido.com being KMA we get a bad rep in the MA community for flashy kicks and getting pwned in MMA and in Real life many a tkd black belt thought olympic style fighting would help them in a street fight i included but i was wrong and suffered injury.
we want to fight fraud and BS in the martial arts that means we dont want people who dont know what their doing telling
people how to save their lives.

edit: here is what other martial arts think of TKD sadly http://youtube.com/watch?v=_KqUHQzyHFs this is proof that we must move from and if not mantain a realistic approach to combat.
some other martial arts you should look at are kyokushin, sun mu sul, a hapkido school that fights under pro hapkido rules.
Gong kwan yu sul is new art which looks good, judo is good so is muay thai, avoid arts such as aikido or other internal arts as they skill required is high and many techniques are impratical. btw boxing is overated j/k

LOL at that video! I was trying to be nice at first, but when you put it that way - that people can get hurt following faulty advice, I now feel responsible to at least say SOMETHING.

I've had a knife pulled on me exactly once in my entire life. What did I do? I ran my a$$ out of there - and I know dozens of "knife defenses"! Really, like Atomic said, a knife is no joke. If the guy has extensive knife training and you have no weapon, you're done for. Period. If the guy's a novice, it's still unlikely you're going to emerge completely unscathed without giving yourself as many advantages as you can - distance, diversion, deal with the devil, etc. To create the most advantageous environment, putting an object between you and your assailant is absolutely crucial. If you're at a bar, you use a stool. If you're at a pool hall (a lot of dangerous fights happened at these in NYC where I'm from), use a pool cue. If you're on the street...chances are you won't find anything to swing around. But maybe you'll have a backpack. Use that. Or run behind a car. All these things are purely distractions. You probably won't beat a knife-wielding thug with "The World of Chemistry" written by guys who would curl up into the fetal position at the first sign of violence, but these things create space, they distract, and they allow you to yell like hell, run, and if you really really really have no other option, they can help you disarm or otherwise incapacitate your assailant (except the car).

In my scenario, I was on the street. Unfortunately I had nothing to defend myself with and no cars were near enough to hide behind. Some guy rode in on his bike (yup, a regular ol' bike), dismounted about 5 ft. in front of me and demanded my money - a not-so-routine mugging (this was in broad daylight too; that's New York for you). The guy then pulled out a knife, a switchblade, from his pocket to add further incentive. As I stated above, I needed to create a distraction of some kind, so I said "ok ok, sure whatever you want," and pulled out my wallet and held it out for him. I was planning on flicking it at his face or throwing it far away and using that small distraction to run, but because he was holding the bike steady with one hand and the knife in the other, he actually put his knife away to reach out and take my wallet! The idiot saved me like $5! (Hey, I was broke back then, that's all I had - *looks in wallet* er...it's STILL all I have). So anyway, I just looked at him blankly and ran, wallet in hand. I didn't even look back to see if he followed - I heard him yelling after me but I knew he'd never catch me - he had too many obstacles to overcome (dropping or getting back on his bike, getting his knife back out of his pocket, overcoming the shock, etc). So yeah, nothing cool, nothing fancy - in fact, I probably looked incredibly gay running the way I was running - but hey, life is gay. It's sure as hell better than death.

So the moral of the story is please, everyone, just be smart. There's not always a cool, flashy, or even remotely impressive way of dealing with real life threats. Put it this way. Would you rather do a flying 360 degree kick on a guy with a knife and get your femoral artery slashed and bleed to death within an hour? Or would you rather scream like Tickle Me Elmo getting a root canal, wet your pants, run away and cry all through the streets and get the whole embarrassing scenario taped by a bystander and put on Youtube to then be laughed at for the rest of your life by millions of people, but at least be alive to suffer through it all? Think about it. The correct answer will save your life.

Also i dont want to burst bubbles here, but the truth is even if you train in a martial art it DOES NOT guarantee you success in the street realm this is the cold hard truth. if your olny goal to take a martial art is for self defense just buy a gun or some pepper spray. you do not olny pay money for classes but you pay in blood sweat and yes tears or even broken bones, some one once said "a martial artist may be more than a fighter but a martial artist is a fighter". i say this to dispel any disillusion you have of martial arts to become profiecient enuff to defend yourself with martial arts takes a good teacher time and countless hours battling it out on the mat you fight how you train.

here is what good sparring should look like if self defence is your goal the school you should go to should have similaritie with this video

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ik-Zk6LpgQQ

note that no gloves are worn and no punches to head take place this is done for the saftey of the practioners some schools allow punches to the head with gloves or other protection

What would you do in a situation like when a guy is poining a gun to your head?

so how do u paralyze someone? i've seen chinese kung fu movies and u can do that by poking certain points is it fake?

well...it really depends on every little thing...if you gotta gun also, its proven that if you shoot the gun in his hand real fast, his hand is gonna be maimed..and also, if your quick enuff you can do a meneuver to kick/knock or grab the gun outta his hand



no..your pressure points? if you hit a person wrong..u can kill them. but its not paralyze..its a knock out..but i dont think people teach that


and do you guys no about taekkyun (roots of tae kwon do)
its a little funky as in the dancing part and the sounds but...once you see this, you'll flip
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8_eEBZddrXM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OxXS94Qrpkw&feature=related

yes i have heard of taeggyun and i disagree with you it is not the root of TKD(it may have SOME influence) the roots of TKD are karate plain and simple study the kwan history very few masters if any studied it most went to japan and studied arts like shotokan and shorin ryu. Hell we used to do the same forms that most karate schools did look at palgwe closely and see what it looks like....

LOL at some of the videos posted. this is what real fighting looks like:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wJhiGw06naE&feature=related

There are no fancy flying kicks, flips, etc. In true unarmed combat, everything needs to be simple and effective. A fight is a freakin fight. There is no showboating and it is not pretty.

edit: If you still wanna do all the fancy acrobatics, I suggest gymnastics. Cuz in a real fight all of that is useless.

i dont think tae kwon do does anything in a self-efense real life situation. Tae kwon do seems too pretty to be effective against a glapling attack. get on close range, and the tkd is over.
don't believe me? watch this http://youtube.com/watch?v=tDmwyIh4ryQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=052lKTG7ohc&feature=related
BJJ vs. Tae kwon do.
In truth, if you watch MMA or UFC, you never see any fighter without either thai boxing or Jiu Jitsu influence. But i dont remember ever seeing anyone with TKD influence (probably cuz if they try to pull any of those useless pretty kicks, they will get knocked out in the first couple of seconds).

But that's just my opinion.

Fedor has taken TKD to improve his kicking. He obviously doesn't think it is useless. But he is only an undefeated heavyweight champion of Pride FC... he prolly doesn't know what hes doing...

In a real life you don`t want to fall on the floor, best options are to keep it standing or throw them. You will hurt your whole body doing BJJ on the street(concrete or hard surface).

If you really want to learn self-defencing. Study Krav Maga. It is developed particularly to streets when someone is pointing knife, weapon or when someone is trying to hurt you. In krav maga your plan is to unarm your opponent or win the fight as fast as possible. And it is not sport as TKD etc. It is self-defencing not more or less. You do anything to survive.

+ guards, police forces and soldiers are learning it.

I don't think you want to fall anywhere. BJJ is effective on the street and you won't hurt your "whole body". You learn to break falls and pull guard effectively as opposed to getting slammed on your back.

True, but once you understand that breaking your fall won`t stop the pain, if you roll on the street imagine how that will feel. Ouch!



If you want to survive then kick the other person in a weak spot, since it`s reality if you really want to survive you have to do anything fight dirty. Bite, fishhook etc, reality isn`t a ring or a mat. It`s good to learn martial arts to defend yourself, but martial arts sparring/fighting has rules to it. In the ring you don`t fight two or more people as to real life, people don`t charge you when you fight with weapons when you fight non weapon styles. When your fighting on the floor and your grappling people might come to stomp on your ass and if your fighting multiple opponents at once their not gonna come at you one at a time. Think Zerg rush.

Krav Maga. In Krav Maga you learn to fight more than just one person. And in real life anyone can come and charge you with knife or gun etc. In real life if you fight multiple opponenst they all will come at you once if they really wants to beat you up.
In krav maga they teach you to survive if there would be more than just one opponent. Because real world is cruel and gives no mercy so you wont give it either.

why don't you just run away if it's an unnecessary fight?! especially if weapons are involved O.O and you don't have one


i agree with you with fighting dirty and such especially in a group attack.... but if you are in a one-on-one fight, BJJ is very effective even if it hurts scraping/rolling on the ground... the other guy will be worse off then you b/c they'll get a limb broken or choked out!! and usually 80% of fights end up on the ground

krav maga and/or eskrima ftw for weapon training