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heartonmysleeve
do violent sports like boxing, martial arts, etc. make a person violent? Or does it help them control their emotions better?

just curious

edit:// I mean doing them lol
Ryo Saeba
Depends on the person and the teacher. Take for example martial arts - the real ones and not the watered down version. This teaches you not only to incapacitate your opponent but kill when necessary. But it also teaches you discipline and better belief in oneself and becoming humble - for no matter how good you may be there will always be someone better than you. The problem lies if the student couldn't handle the knowledge and skill properly plus the teacher doesn't identify the problems with his student. One example is boasting that this martial art style is better than that.

Same goes when competing with firearms. You don't see legal gun owners competing in combat sports doing mayhem in the street. These are disciplined individuals (admittedly there are a few bad apples every now and then) who are also upstanding citizens in their community.

Boxers are also like these although the commercialization has made it something else. You often see the two boxers during the weigh in and face off about to start the fight early. The promoters love this as it gives the audience something to talk about (and bet on).
xTwilight
Definitely. Once you get used to it, it doesn't really mean much anymore.
Antz
yes, i believe it does, but it depends on the person
my guy friends do them but they don't use it unless it's really needed.
Joanna
not violent but maybe stronger both inside and outside because some of the sports also train the minds as well.
AtomicNorthernLights
interesting topic
In my opinion combat sports do not make one violent it actually helps you restrain yourself. knowing that you can easily break bones, displace joints, or even kill quite easily compared to other people is a very sobering experience.

In my experience as a martial artist emphasis on martial, in the beginning i did feel a little violent in the sense i wanted to test my skills out alot but that eventually settled as i began to understand what the techniques i know can make a person feel. hitting and getting hit while keeping a cool collected mind is a great tool for teaching restrain actually, and i believe it helps a person from becoming necessarily violent. but in the end martial arts were created of violence and to commit violent act against another living being one must understand this, one must understand that some people are more violent than others with or without prior knowledge of martial arts.
heartonmysleeve
QUOTE (xTwilight @ Dec 24 2007, 11:19 PM) *
Definitely. Once you get used to it, it doesn't really mean much anymore.


what do you mean by "doesn't really mean much anymore"? Do you mean that the person no longer sees getting his/her frustration out is violence? So they become violent?

Malice_Kaiser
Not at all.

Some of the most violent sports, such as martial arts, practice some of the most explicit and uncompromising discipline you can imagine. They teach you more than just how to fight, but also how to control yourself.

It may not be impossible for a violent sport to turn you violent, but to assume that that's the immediate outcome is just ridiculous.
AtomicNorthernLights
QUOTE (heartonmysleeve @ Dec 25 2007, 12:11 AM) *
what do you mean by "doesn't really mean much anymore"? Do you mean that the person no longer sees getting his/her frustration out is violence? So they become violent?

i believe it means that after countless hours bleeding, sweating, and writhing in pain in the dojo/dojang one understands that violence is not always the answer and that as a martial artist you are capable of doing a myriad of bodily harm to others. Also many martial artist follow strict codes that either they themselves set up or there style sets i my self follow a personal code of honor and integrity.

for example here is the dojo kun of kyokushin
We will train our hearts and bodies, for a firm unshaken spirit.
We will pursue the true meaning of the Martial Way, so that in time our senses may be alert.
With true vigor, we will seek to cultivate a spirit of self-denial.
We will observe the rules of courtesy, respect our superiors, and refrain from violence.
We will follow our spiritual path, and never forget the true virtue of humility.
We will look upwards to wisdom and strength, not seeking other desires.
All our lives, through the discipline of Karate, we will seek to fulfill the true meaning of the Kyokushin Way.
BU_RP
i think it does.
i rmb i had a obsession for WWE for 5 years..
it wouldve still been happening but my mom cut the cable sleep.gif"
but yeah ever since then.. i like to hit alot of guys? happy.gif
BUHNEE213
^^^ so your're saying it influenced you to be violent?
HERMIT
Sometimes it's not the most violent of sports that makes people violent.
Take billiards, for example. (Some may say that's not a sport - but if they televise it on ESPN, then who the hell am I to say?)
Anyway, playing pool doesn't seem violent to me. But boy, don't make make the mistake I did during a tournament and burp out loud while a competitor was taking a shot.
She missed, lost a ton of dough, and I ended up with a cue stick broken off across the top of my skull.
S13xFLYxBY
I train in MMA, but that doesn't make me violent. Once you learn the style in-depth and you learn how devastating it can be, it makes you wonder do you really want to do it to someone? I recently gave one of my opponent "minor" neck injury and i learned how devastating it was since he was lying on the floor unable to move for 20 minutes.
jliu6190
Hmm. That's a really good question.

I think that most of the time, martial arts actually make you more disciplined and less violent. You know just how brutal the techniques are, and you don't want to use them unless you have to.

But personally, I have actually become a bit more...antsy pantsy. I wanna spar all the time! It's either my warrior (ha) blood or my otherwise non-existent competitive spirit.
Kendo
I've done Tae Kwon Do as a small child and now I spend my free time hitting people with sticks.

I haven't been in a single fight since elementary school (it was a stupid playground thing) and I like to think of myself as a fairly calm person.

Different martial arts emphasize discipline more than others, for example, Kendo has a very high level of discipline while karate and tae kwon do have very differing levels of discipline depending on where you study.

Or maybe that's just me being biased ;D
mistertony
i absolutely love boxing. i also happen to be incredibly violent and aggressive.
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