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xserene
My teacher told me that colleges like to see students step out of their stereotypical comfort zone. So.. if you're asian.. you excel in math and science.. colleges will think that "oh, this student is the typical asian" and they won't like it as much as maybe another asian student who maybe isn't as great in math and science.. but maybe plays football...

Well, that's what my teacher said. Anyways, it's got me worrying a little.. since I'm that typical asian LOL.. so, what ethnicity are you and are you "stepping out of your comfort zone?"
Avex
AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

i really hate this.
dude, just be yourself. but noone can know for sure its true, unless you have been behind the scenes through the admissions offices, or you are an admissions officer. (while i might guess it's true though based on articles i've read)

i'm chinese.
i don't want to be stalked by people on the internet, but i make attempts to be involved within my culture (i have an activity that im part of which i not divulge).
i do this because i really want to know about who i am as an asian-american, not because you want to get out of the "stereotypical comfort zone".

and by the way, if you are going to do stuff you love to do, share the love with others and really express it openly around the community around you. while im making it seem like you need to do it to increase your chances of going to college, you'll learn alot about yourself.
alicimoo
Say you're really bad at foreign languages but you go and take a foreign language. That's challenging yourself and steppign out of your comfort zone.
pepprmint
QUOTE (alicimoo @ Mar 19 2008, 10:23 PM) *
Say you're really bad at foreign languages but you go and take a foreign language. That's challenging yourself and steppign out of your comfort zone.

^but lets say you do that, wouldnt that almst be like setting yourself up for failure??

well...im asian...and im not majoring in math or science or anything near that, does that count? x] but id say, i wouldnt do anything that makes me uncomfortable. if what i LIKE and am INTERESTED in is stereotypical, than so be it. if, being an asian girl, i happen to like football, than i'd play football, not because some advisor told me to, but because thats what i want to do......
alicimoo
^
Not necessarily.
But anyways, that's what my guidance counselors have told me about stepping out of the comfort zone.

Okay, maybe another less intense example then.
If you're fluent in a language, and take a new language, that's stepping out of the comfort zone.
*Gonie
honestly, do what you want.. so what if you fall into the "typical asian" stereotype... the only reason why it's seen as being typical is because we're of a different color in my opinion... honestly, there are many white people who don't play football or other sports but they excel in school work, yet that's not seen as the "typical white person"... but if it's someone of another color, regardless if they're american or not, it's stereotype... that's what bugs me the most about people...

but enough of my ranting... just be who you are and if you want to try new things, go for it... but don't do it because you think you won't get into college if you don't... that's just ridiculous....

*Gonie
ever.lasting
from my experience, the SAT, IB/AP, TEST SCORES, VOLUNTEER ACTIVITIES and so forth does not matter. Most colleges lie when they say, they don't look too into the GPA and that they CARE about the courses you take. What really matters is whether or not your transcript GPA say 3.5 OR HIGHER. I may be wrong and cynical, but thats what I have seen. Colleges have their little "average" statistics of GPA and no college want someone with a lower gpa to weight them down.

As long as you have higher 3.5, chances are you can at least get into a decent college. The University of Wash. ( one of the best schools for medicine and business in the US) accepts student with 900/2400 sat scores because they have 4.0's. So you should not worry at all. If no college accepts you, you can always pack your bag and attend UW.
.hidden melody.
Hm... honestly I don't really believe that. If you can show that you really rock at science/math, your ethnicity shouldn't matter. I guess it wouldn't hurt to try to incorporate a couple things about you that a "typical asian" wouldn't normally do though, I guess. :D
Avex
QUOTE (ever.lasting @ Mar 19 2008, 08:19 PM) *
from my experience, the SAT, IB/AP, TEST SCORES, VOLUNTEER ACTIVITIES and so forth does not matter. Most colleges lie when they say, they don't look too into the GPA and that they CARE about the courses you take. What really matters is whether or not your transcript GPA say 3.5 OR HIGHER. I may be wrong and cynical, but thats what I have seen. Colleges have their little "average" statistics of GPA and no college want someone with a lower gpa to weight them down.

As long as you have higher 3.5, chances are you can at least get into a decent college. The University of Wash. ( one of the best schools for medicine and business in the US) accepts student with 900/2400 sat scores because they have 4.0's. So you should not worry at all. If no college accepts you, you can always pack your bag and attend UW.


just curious, what schools did u apply to?
orangebubbles
i used to be that typical asian. being good at math...but i took calculus BC this year (i'm a junior btw) and it just killed me. it REALLY helped me make my decision that i wanted to be an art major.

and i dropped to calc AB. SO MUCH EASIER.


edit! (after reading a few posts)
but colleges DO have a certain percentage of races that they can accept. like, they might want to keep it 30% white, 20% asian, etc. so even if you have a GREAT transcript, there's a chance you wont get in because of the percentage thing.
heartmonster
^ Yea my guidance counselor told us about that and same thing with like international students/where you come from and such.

Ehh I take Mandarin (I speak Cantonese at home) because I actually wanted to learn it .. not just for an easy A (even though that is an advantage)..
xlxlizzaxlx
I agree with all the others.

I think it's about what you want.
Don't set yourself up just so you can look good to colleges.

It's your life.
If you're the stereotypical asian, so be it.
If you step out of the boundaries and don't feel comfortable with it, don't stick with it.

Think about it, do you really want to waste away four years of your life filled with stuff you don't like just so you can look good to some undergraduate college?

They say high school and college are supposed to be the time of your life, because afterwards, you have your whole life to work xP.
So just do what you want ^-^

high school is a time to prepare yourself for college, but also for life.
You don't want to do the things you dislike just to look good.
If you're going to drop it afterwards, what exactly do you gain?
Just question yourself on your interests, and forget about what others think.
After all, don't you want a college that will accept you for YOU? cool.gif
kuku
This is BS.

Colleges cannot use ethnicity to determine whether or not they accept you. It's purely base on stats and extracurriculars and possibly an interview of you do one.

"Race, gender, national origin, and ethnicity have not been used as UC admission criteria since the passing of Proposition 209. However, this information is collected for statistical purposes."
kimx
^True that. There are laws against affirmative action.

I definitely think you should do something YOU want to do even if it is stereotypically Asian. If you want to stand out to colleges later, I would recommend writing about your experiences with such activities in a different way.
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