KeN VeRsUs RyU
Mar 2 2006, 05:56 PM
DO NOT P.M. ME OR SUKI. WE GET BOMBARDED EVERYDAY BY PRIVATE MESSAGES. WE TRY TO GET TO EVERY SINGLE MESSAGE BUT IT HAS BEEN GETTING WAY TOO OUT OF CONTROL. APOLOGIES FOR ANY MESSAGES WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO. REMEMBER, IF ME OR SUKI CANNOT GET TO YOUR POST, OTHERS ARE FREE TO REPLY.
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This will be the only advice thread in the L&R forum. If any other "advice" threads are started, they will either be closed or merged with this thread. I do not want a bunch of "love doctor" threads in the L&R forum because it is already messy enough.
If you feel you can help soompiers with their problems, please post your advice in this thread. Do not start a new one "advertising" your offer to help.
Okay ask us anything! We're (KeN VeRsUs RyU and suki_*) more than willing to give some good sound advice about love and relationships. No question is too silly to ask and all questions are important.
Take it or leave it......
LOVE AND RELATIONSHIP QUESTIONS ONLY!!!!
Please do not go off topic and any questions related to sex should be asked in the sex pinned thread.
The doctors are in.
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MaryMagdalin
Mar 2 2006, 05:58 PM
so if a girl gives a guy a blowjob
and then they kiss
and then he give her oral
will she get pregnant???
;]
KeN VeRsUs RyU
Mar 2 2006, 06:19 PM
the doctor will now see iammrsLee
I've yet to see that happen but stranger things have happened.
Take it or leave it..... If you are "hypothetically" telling me that you have a friend..... then please come out and be the very first mother to have a baby conceived by blowjob! Be sure to name him Bob Jones or her Brenda Jane.
MOONA
Mar 2 2006, 06:20 PM
no you can't get pregnant through oral, only vaginal
MaryMagdalin
Mar 2 2006, 06:21 PM
i`m straight.
Tetra
Mar 2 2006, 06:22 PM
Is it uncool to go against socially accepted norms?
QUOTE(BGIRL @ Mar 2 2006, 07:20 PM) [snapback]1851727[/snapback]
no you can't get pregnant through oral, only vaginal
A single sperm already leads to a possibility...so..
Plus it's b/j then kiss then guy goes down, so...
MaryMagdalin
Mar 2 2006, 06:22 PM
QUOTE(BGIRL @ Mar 2 2006, 04:20 PM) [snapback]1851727[/snapback]
no you can't get pregnant through oral, only vaginal
the situation i gave
it is possible
really hard, but very possible
sc0604
Mar 2 2006, 06:22 PM
QUOTE(iammrsLee @ Mar 2 2006, 03:58 PM) [snapback]1851519[/snapback]
so if a girl gives a guy a blowjob
and then they kiss
and then he give her oral
will she get pregnant???
;]
puahahaha
KeN VeRsUs RyU
Mar 2 2006, 06:35 PM
Next appointment..
QUOTE(Tetra @ Mar 2 2006, 04:22 PM) [snapback]1851748[/snapback]
Is it uncool to go against socially accepted norms?
I'm going to try to relate this question to love and relationships. If there was a specific.. please rephrase the question.
Socially accepted norms in terms of love is like a 12 sided die.. which once was a six sided die.. which was once a coin flip. As we all know there are conservative "christian" values in regards to love and sex in which we are all aware of. And then there are "liberal" values (which run amuck in certain cities like sf and ny.. i know cuz i lived in both cities). And then there are grey areas.... the other 10 sides of the die. It gets grey only because culture, media, religion, education, hell even the gov't gets in the way. The biggest of those gray area is the media.. they spoon feed you by pointing out all the things wrong with yourself and providing a sound solution... which is basic advertisement. You'll notice that with EVERY SINGLE commericial or ad. Point out the negative.. present the positive. This has been a HUGE influence in sex and love especially in the millenium years. This is by no means "new" in any way.. but the acceptance and tolerance of all this.. results in our culture as we see it today. So is it uncool? Nowadays there is no real socially accepted norms.... just venture out 10 miles from where you are and you'll land on another side of the die.
Take it or leave it... We live in a world where risks are handsomely awarded.. i say take the risk of being "uncool".
|| Nai xPc.
Mar 2 2006, 06:41 PM
There's this guy named D'antae that EVERYONE (including myself) thinks that likes me. He walks me to class, gives me hugs, calls me sometimes, and buys me McDonald's occasionally - just to list some of the nice thangs he does for me.
This morning in 2nd hour, Geometry, he was showing me this paper that he drew some lil' designs on. It had some cute stuff on it, but any ways, his hand was blocking the top half of the paper and I wanted to know wat it said, and I demanded to know. He wouldn't let me so I pleaded (LOL) until he let me; if he didn't, I would've snatched it any ways - which I kinda did. Anyhow, wen the whole piece of paper was revealed, it said "DANA and D'ANTAE."
I was shocked, and confused and MAD cuz I was starting to like his dumbself too. Then again, maybe I'm the dumb one for falling the signals. Don't you think he was sending me mixed signals too? And maybe I was sending him mix signals too b/c in the beginning, I use to have a guy named Brian and D'antae would alwayse ask me what was wup wid me and Brian still, and stuff. It's too hard to explain in one post, but what do you think? This ain't really a problem; I just want someone else's opinion.
I'm real confused folks b/c after 6th hr, I slapped him on the back of his arm to say Hi and ran off, and he shouted after my stupid ass to come back. I laughed and slowly turned around and he grabbed me, his arm around my waist (I had a one-shoulder backpack on, too) and gave me a hug.
Am I reading D'antae's signs wrong, or wat? If he likes Dana, wat is he doing giving me affection? Do this dude just like two girls at the same or wat? B/C honestly, I would understand if he likes two girls b/c I liked him a lil' bit even wen I still liked Brian. . .
Thanks. LOL. =)
KeN VeRsUs RyU
Mar 2 2006, 06:54 PM
QUOTE(|| Nai xPc. @ Mar 2 2006, 04:41 PM) [snapback]1851983[/snapback]
There's this guy named D'antae that EVERYONE (including myself) thinks that likes me. He walks me to class, gives me hugs, calls me sometimes, and buys me McDonald's occasionally - just to list some of the nice thangs he does for me.
This morning in 2nd hour, Geometry, he was showing me this paper that he drew some lil' designs on. It had some cute stuff on it, but any ways, his hand was blocking the top half of the paper and I wanted to know wat it said, and I demanded to know. He wouldn't let me so I pleaded (LOL) until he let me; if he didn't, I would've snatched it any ways - which I kinda did. Anyhow, wen the whole piece of paper was revealed, it said "DANA and D'ANTAE."
I was shocked, and confused and MAD cuz I was starting to like his dumbself too. Then again, maybe I'm the dumb one for falling the signals. Don't you think he was sending me mixed signals too? And maybe I was sending him mix signals too b/c in the beginning, I use to have a guy named Brian and D'antae would alwayse ask me what was wup wid me and Brian still, and stuff. It's too hard to explain in one post, but what do you think? This ain't really a problem; I just want someone else's opinion.
I'm real confused folks b/c after 6th hr, I slapped him on the back of his arm to say Hi and ran off, and he shouted after my stupid ass to come back. I laughed and slowly turned around and he grabbed me, his arm around my waist (I had a one-shoulder backpack on, too) and gave me a hug.
Am I reading D'antae's signs wrong, or wat? If he likes Dana, wat is he doing giving me affection? Do this dude just like two girls at the same or wat? B/C honestly, I would understand if he likes two girls b/c I liked him a lil' bit even wen I still liked Brian. . .
Thanks. LOL. =)
Quite a predicament you have there.
We have a name for those types of guys. Guys' call them friendly, girls call them flirty... I would call him "A boy".
In all honesty guys give mixed signals because of several reasons: their insecurity, their modest level of maturity, they're flirtacious, they watched it on t.v. or watched their older brother playing 2 or 3 girls and thinks that is how love should be played and respected.. or maybe it's all of the above. I guarantee you if you are having mixed signals then he is a victim to one of these.
I'm going to assume that you are in h.s. ... or maybe even younger. Insecurity and maturity are two things that "a boy" can learn to grow out of much like a deep hole. Flirting and everything else.. are pretty much like a BLACK HOLE.. in which they dig deeper and age can never REALLY take care of it.. although it can be remedied.
Now this whole 2 girl situation is pretty intense. It's kind of like watching jerry springer in where 2 girls fight for the guy... the ironic thing is that the guy they fight over is usually some form of LOOOOOOOOOOOOSER.... but it is funny as hell to see 2 girls fight over a guy.. so ultimately the joke is on the 2 girls. SEE WHAT I'M GETTING AT??????????
Take it or leave it..... I will not tell you which direction to take.. but rather i will tell you how i think it will end up... decision 1.. you dis-continue this charade.. proclaim yourself as friends and keep the many happy-meal toys that he's graciously bought you.. or decision 2... keep persuing him and suffer the consequences to "a boy". Me personally, those happy meal toys can be quite a collectors item.
|| Nai xPc.
Mar 2 2006, 07:03 PM
LMAO! Um, great answer - And I`m being serious too.
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watched their older brother playing 2 or 3 girls and thinks that is how love should be played and respected..
D'antae`s dad left his mom wen he was younger, and his older brother, Kendric, is a PLAYER. Yeah, even I have to admit. Maybe that`s where dude gets his ways from.
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I'm going to assume that you are in h.s. ... or maybe even younger.
Yes, high-school.
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the ironic thing is that the guy they fight over is usually some form of LOOOOOOOOOOOOSER.... but it is funny as hell to see 2 girls fight over a guy.. so ultimately the joke is on the 2 girls. SEE WHAT I'M GETTING AT??????????
LOL omfg, kakaka.
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proclaim yourself as friends and keep the many happy-meal toys that he's graciously bought you.. or decision 2... keep persuing him and suffer the consequences to "a boy". Me personally, those happy meal toys can be quite a collectors item.
We do claim each other as friends, but erytime we're together, there's this strange tension. He's alwayse touchin me and shiet. And at the end of class, if we don't hug, then we act all weird the next day. I do want to be friends, for real and JUST friends, but it seems like it's gon be hard since I'm starting to like D'antae but I'm not even over Brian, yet. (Brian and my situation is very COMPLEX to explain.) And as for the McDonald items, LOL.
Chyeah, dude, you a good advice giver. I just might have to PM you one day. Thanks for the help, and write back wid any more feedback.
Tetra
Mar 2 2006, 07:04 PM
QUOTE(KeN VeRsUs RyU @ Mar 2 2006, 07:35 PM) [snapback]1851905[/snapback]
I'm going to try to relate this question to love and relationships. If there was a specific.. please rephrase the question.
Socially accepted norms in terms of love is like a 12 sided die.. which once was a six sided die.. which was once a coin flip. As we all know there are conservative "christian" values in regards to love and sex in which we are all aware of. And then there are "liberal" values (which run amuck in certain cities like sf and ny.. i know cuz i lived in both cities). And then there are grey areas.... the other 10 sides of the die. It gets grey only because culture, media, religion, education, hell even the gov't gets in the way. The biggest of those gray area is obvious media.. they spoon feed you by pointing out all the things wrong with yourself and providing a sound solution... which is basic advertisement. You'll notice that with EVERY SINGLE commericial or ad. Point out the negative.. present the positive. This has been a HUGE influence in sex and love especially in the millenium years. This is by no means "new" in any way.. but the acceptance and tolerance of all this.. results in our culture as we see it today. So is it uncool? Nowadays there is no real socially accepted norms.... just venture out 10 miles from where you are and you'll land on another side of the die.
Take it or leave it... We live in a world where risks are handsomely awarded.. i say take the risk of being "uncool".
Hahaha, there was no actually specification, but I'm glad you figured out that my question was relating to relationships

In any case, girls have been taught that they had to find an older guy.
Guys have been taught that they had to find a younger girl, or a girl of equal age.
Times have changed, and girls finally realize that they need work, so the whole "find yourself a rich man, cause you'll need him to live" is void.
But still, this whole idea of having to find someone older and wiser, someone more mature (based on age, at times), and someone that can love you (because he/she is mature with his/her emotions), leads me to thinking that girls and guys don't really make their own choices, and simply follow the crowd.
Now isn't it true, that if we all followed the crowd, we'd be more easier to manipulate?
But that's besides the point.
Everything is related to each other: to be socially accepted by those around you, which then leads you to do stuff that people accept, which, if you looked at the influences, would be all of those profit-making businesses that are just out there to get your money and toy with your thoughts.
People get materialistic, superficial, and lose sense of individuality because they need to constantly "be accepted" by "fellow peers", when in reality they're only helping those companies make big bucks.
I personally find it stupid that I can't go for older girls without being looked down upon, and that I need this "experience" which comes from casual dating and casual sex in your late-child/early-teen years.
Dice are messed, cause they hate me

The media is messed. Liberalism vs. conservatism? Well...I guess I belong in the middle because I accept neither left OR right when it comes to society and what's accepted amongst people.
Ok, I'll stop ranting about how ghey some people are when it comes to relationships
after_the_rain
Mar 2 2006, 07:08 PM
hmm...well i guess ill give it a try. I need desperate advices anyways...
So I have this boyfriend, and well...honestly, he's the only one i've ever loved before. But, sadly...i'm stupid. I cheated on him 4 times, and he forgave me every single time but the 4th...And we recently broke up. I don't really know what to do right now. You know that saying "you never know what you've had until its gone"....yeah, its the worst feeling ever!!!...now, I realize that I had it good. And I don't know why I went on spoiling it for. I'm so stupid...I just don't know what to do right now, its so hard when I'm laying in bed at night thinking about all the times we've had. And how hard it is to let go of the one that I've "ever" loved. Whats a girl to do now...?
KeN VeRsUs RyU
Mar 2 2006, 07:22 PM
QUOTE(after_the_rain @ Mar 2 2006, 05:08 PM) [snapback]1852286[/snapback]
hmm...well i guess ill give it a try. I need desperate advices anyways...
So I have this boyfriend, and well...honestly, he's the only one i've ever loved before. But, sadly...i'm stupid. I cheated on him 4 times, and he forgave me every single time but the 4th...And we recently broke up. I don't really know what to do right now. You know that saying "you never know what you've had until its gone"....yeah, its the worst feeling ever!!!...now, I realize that I had it good. And I don't know why I went on spoiling it for. I'm so stupid...I just don't know what to do right now, its so hard when I'm laying in bed at night thinking about all the times we've had. And how hard it is to let go of the one that I've "ever" loved. Whats a girl to do now...?
Okay i'll have to clear out my schedule for this one.
I personally never really had any experience with cheating or being the cheateree in terms of sex. But i have felt crushed before in terms of love. It was the most horrific thing in the world to feel because i truly love this girl. While i forgave her, once in a blue moon my mind will wander and think of that one day my gf kissed someone else. Time will heal all wounds but it's ultimately about trust.
Now i really don't know why you have problems with monogamy. It can be a very number of things... but I will say you have very many trust issues. It's not that you have a problem with trusting people(maybe you do).. but it seems you have a problem with taking advantage of those who trust you.
Like myself, time will heal your wounds as well. It seems to me you've learned A lesson in what to look for in an ideal bf.. but have you learned THE lesson.. "HOW NOT TO CHEAT"? It is inevitable to fall into the same cycle of dating and cheating if you have not dealt with these certain issues. Learn to deal with why you cheat and I guarantee you you will feel a sense of freedom bound only by yourself.
A great outlet for me is writing. Write a letter to 2 people. One is to your ex bf. Tell him why and how you cheated and what your relationship meant to you. And two.. write a letter to yourself (i know it sounds funny but try it) explaining the same thing and ultimately what you think of the kind of person you ARE and the kind of person you WANT TO BE. I mean.. who knows.. maybe cheating isn't a big deal to you.. if it isn't.. disregard the letter idea.
Take it or leave it.... I'd advise you not to date until you've really figured this one out.. it's a real sensitive issue to most people and not a big deal to some... OR you can experience it cold turkey and experience cheating on a first-hand basis and go date a cheater .. name D'ANTE.. and experience first hand what it's like to be your bf.
p.s. I ALWAYS advise people never to solve your boy problems with another boy. it works maybe 15 percent of the time.. its like taking the nicotine patch. Sometimes it works.. and sometimes you just patch it all over the body... but eventually you'll go back to the cigarettes.
hammer12
Mar 2 2006, 07:28 PM
QUOTE(KeN VeRsUs RyU @ Mar 2 2006, 03:56 PM) [snapback]1851500[/snapback]
Okay ask me anything! I'm more than willing to give some good sound advice about love and relationships. No question is too silly to ask and all questions are important.
Take it or leave it......
QUESTIONS ONLY!!!!
The doctor is in.
Why do girls have brains since they never seem to use it?
KeN VeRsUs RyU
Mar 2 2006, 07:32 PM
QUOTE(hammer12 @ Mar 2 2006, 05:28 PM) [snapback]1852507[/snapback]
Why do girls have brains since they never seem to use it?
The same reason why I have a VCR. JUST IN CASE!
Take it or leave it... Some people only see mirror images of themselves in friends and family... so maybe try using your brain and in turn others will follow. If not, you can always borrow my VCR and watch VHS version of "I know what you did last summer 2".
after_the_rain
Mar 2 2006, 07:37 PM
QUOTE(KeN VeRsUs RyU @ Mar 2 2006, 07:22 PM) [snapback]1852428[/snapback]
Okay i'll have to clear out my schedule for this one.
I personally never really had any experience with cheating or being the cheateree in terms of sex. But i have felt crushed before in terms of love. It was the most horrific thing in the world to feel because i truly love this girl. While i forgave her, once in a blue moon my mind will wander and think of that one day my gf kissed someone else. Time will heal all wounds but it's ultimately about trust.
Now i really don't know why you have problems with monogamy. It can be a very number of things... but I will say you have very many trust issues. It's not that you have a problem with trusting people(maybe you do).. but it seems you have a problem with taking advantage of those who trust you.
Like myself, time will heal your wounds as well. It seems to me you've learned A lesson in what to look for in an ideal bf.. but have you learned THE lesson.. "HOW NOT TO CHEAT"? It is inevitable to fall into the same cycle of dating and cheating if you have not dealt with these certain issues. Learn to deal with why you cheat and I guarantee you you will feel a sense of freedom bound only by yourself.
A great outlet for me is writing. Write a letter to 2 people. One is to your ex bf. Tell him why and how you cheated and what your relationship meant to you. And two.. write a letter to yourself (i know it sounds funny but try it) explaining the same thing and ultimately what you think of the kind of person you ARE and the kind of person you WANT TO BE. I mean.. who knows.. maybe cheating isn't a big deal to you.. if it isn't.. disregard the letter idea.
Take it or leave it.... I'd advise you not to date until you've really figured this one out.. it's a real sensitive issue to most people and not a big deal to some... OR you can experience it cold turkey and experience cheating on a first-hand basis and go date a cheater .. name D'ANTE.. and experience first hand what it's like to be your bf.
p.s. I ALWAYS advise people never to solve your boy problems with another boy. it works maybe 15 percent of the time.. its like taking the nicotine patch. Sometimes it works.. and sometimes you just patch it all over the body... but eventually you'll go back to the cigarettes.
well idk, im pretty hurt [ though im not the one that got cheated on] ...i guess that must hurt more. I know he still loves me, and I guess maybe if we're ment to be together, we will...one of these days. But sometimes its just so hard to let go, u know? But for now, I really dont think I can handle another relationship rite now. I guess I'm just not mature enough to have a "relationshhip" with someone rite now. I guess sometimes ppl are selfish and they just seem to keep wanting more and never being satisfy. I know about the whole "trust" issue thing. Maybe I should learn to be more secure and trust others more, and also in myself. I think I'm willing to wait...however long that takes
the one
Mar 2 2006, 07:38 PM
Is your screen name based on Street Fighter?
hammer12
Mar 2 2006, 07:40 PM
QUOTE(KeN VeRsUs RyU @ Mar 2 2006, 05:32 PM) [snapback]1852538[/snapback]
The same reason why I have a VCR. JUST IN CASE!
Take it or leave it... Some people only see mirror images of themselves in friends and family... so maybe try using your brain and in turn others will follow. If not, you can always borrow my VCR and watch VHS version of "I know what you did last summer 2".
Son, with that kind of diagnosis, you're ass would be sued by the HMOs faster than a fat kid chugging down hot fudge. Rip your white gown and be a nurse..less responsibility.
SERENDIPITY_.
Mar 2 2006, 07:41 PM
One day, I'm gonna have to pm you for advice, right now, I don't need advice

. All the advice you have given so far are really good

.
PG 2 (:
KeN VeRsUs RyU
Mar 2 2006, 07:51 PM
QUOTE(the one @ Mar 2 2006, 05:38 PM) [snapback]1852602[/snapback]
Is your screen name based on Street Fighter?
PLEASE ASK ABOUT LOVE AND RELATIONSHIPS.
If you are asking about how love and relationship affect ken and ryu.. then here is my answer
Take it or leave it... they fell in love while hiking up a mountain.. ryu back was hurting.. and ken suggested it was broken..
P.S. that inuendo has nothing to do with me btw. d=)
QUOTE(after_the_rain @ Mar 2 2006, 05:37 PM) [snapback]1852594[/snapback]
well idk, im pretty hurt [ though im not the one that got cheated on] ...i guess that must hurt more. I know he still loves me, and I guess maybe if we're ment to be together, we will...one of these days. But sometimes its just so hard to let go, u know? But for now, I really dont think I can handle another relationship rite now. I guess I'm just not mature enough to have a "relationshhip" with someone rite now. I guess sometimes ppl are selfish and they just seem to keep wanting more and never being satisfy. I know about the whole "trust" issue thing. Maybe I should learn to be more secure and trust others more, and also in myself. I think I'm willing to wait...however long that takes
Be patient, the road will be really tough but if you are willing to open yourself up for true love then It's all worth it at the end.
BTW .. I forgot to mention that the two letters that i suggested... are letters to yourself.. and should not be mailed to your bf... or .. to yourself.. well i guess you could mail them to yourself.
MaryMagdalin
Mar 2 2006, 07:59 PM
hm were you that love doctor dude that posted that offensive woman post thingie?
KeN VeRsUs RyU
Mar 2 2006, 08:01 PM
QUOTE(iammrsLee @ Mar 2 2006, 05:59 PM) [snapback]1852864[/snapback]
hm were you that love doctor dude that posted that offensive woman post thingie?
No.
Take it or leave it... um... again no.
shoko86
Mar 2 2006, 08:22 PM
Mr. Love Doctor, would you give me a pill so the pain in my heart will stop.
KeN VeRsUs RyU
Mar 2 2006, 08:25 PM
QUOTE(shoko86 @ Mar 2 2006, 06:22 PM) [snapback]1853069[/snapback]
Mr. Love Doctor, would you give me a pill so the pain in my heart will stop.

I'm sorry i cannot physically give you a pill for that would be against the law. BUT, i can prescribe you some good ole' advice that would hopefully speed the healing.
Take it or leave it... Ask a question.. and maybe the healing can begin.
philip ORR
Mar 2 2006, 08:48 PM
should dating any girl be a advantage for one to gain experience in dating/relationships? or maybe a disavantage because one purpose is to gain experience?
me, persay, would want to date. but if I am that desperate. how come I don't just date ANY girl. I look at other guys, some are attractive, some aren't, (I ain't gay, but it's easy to tell what is attractive or not), and even they have gfs. now, am I allowing myself NOT to be in a relationship? maybe I am. but if I am, how come my *actions tell me I want to be in one?
*actions include:
lately I have been searching through myspace, other forums, dating service, yeah, it's for fun. etc. but conciously, I feel I am trying to FIND me someone. at the same time, I don't go for them because I do not want them to think I actually AM. and in the end, I don't chase them, etc. based because I don't want it to seem I am looking. yes, I may be looking, but the bottom line, whether I searched or not. I am still single.
if I want a gf, I can date and see. but at the same time, I am not dating because I don't want to date just because I want to find someone. I am a little no making sense. like a catch 22. in order for product A, I need product B, in order for product B, I need A. (In order for me to find a potential, I need to date and see who is there. but at the same time, I am not dating because I don't want to tell myself I am dating just for the sake of finding someone.
so what is wrong w/ me?
KeN VeRsUs RyU
Mar 2 2006, 10:40 PM
QUOTE(philip ORR @ Mar 2 2006, 06:48 PM) [snapback]1853348[/snapback]
should dating any girl be a advantage for one to gain experience in dating/relationships? or maybe a disavantage because one purpose is to gain experience?
me, persay, would want to date. but if I am that desperate. how come I don't just date ANY girl. I look at other guys, some are attractive, some aren't, (I ain't gay, but it's easy to tell what is attractive or not), and even they have gfs. now, am I allowing myself NOT to be in a relationship? maybe I am. but if I am, how come my *actions tell me I want to be in one?
*actions include:
lately I have been searching through myspace, other forums, dating service, yeah, it's for fun. etc. but conciously, I feel I am trying to FIND me someone. at the same time, I don't go for them because I do not want them to think I actually AM. and in the end, I don't chase them, etc. based because I don't want it to seem I am looking. yes, I may be looking, but the bottom line, whether I searched or not. I am still single.
if I want a gf, I can date and see. but at the same time, I am not dating because I don't want to date just because I want to find someone. I am a little no making sense. like a catch 22. in order for product A, I need product B, in order for product B, I need A. (In order for me to find a potential, I need to date and see who is there. but at the same time, I am not dating because I don't want to tell myself I am dating just for the sake of finding someone.
so what is wrong w/ me?
Ah, my friend.. i used to be in the same predicament.
With you it could be a number of things. But my guess would be a fear of commitment with a dose of little confidence. You must first be willing to answer the question.. "Am I ready to date with an honest effort?" If your answer is no, then proceed with your "look but don't touch" scheme that you are already a part of.
BUT if your answer is yes, then we move on.
If it is yes, then you must learn to humble yourself and really asses who you are and what kind of person you are compatible with. Compatibility is key to a long lasting relationship. I'm sure you already have a certain kind of girl in mind so with that information... start the "filtration process". So you're asking .. how do i know what i want?? Instead of just sitting there and fiddling with your thumbs.. try some sites like www.eharmony.com.. it's a trial free site that asks you almost a thousand questions about yourself and what you want from a relationship. You'll learn a lot about yourself .. especially if you haev someone else answer the questions with you.
And now we are approached with the question.. "is dating for experience". The answer is simple.. OF COURSE IT IS! Some of us have an ideal partner in mind so they would completely omit the dating scene and search for "THE ONE!" That works only on certain levels with certain people. Those are the kinds of people who are willing to be patient, be humble, strongly committed, and aren't afraid to admit to mistakes. And to some.. dating is just a much needed process of elimination. The more you date.. the more you eliminate and get closer to the "one". Makes sense doesn't it?
Alas, there is a light at the end of the tunnel because you should know one thing and one thing only. There are billions of girls in the world... and many of them have similar concerns as you and the same level of experience so there really is no need to play "Catch up" with the next man. Take dating one step at a time. For yourself, i'd say take baby steps. Once you realize what you really want from yourself and from a girl.. then take a giant leap forward and finally look for the "potential" gf.
Take it or leave it... It's a little like poker. If your a poker aficianado like me..you probably know that in order to win you MUST NOT be afraid to go all in. Otherwise you'll lose all your chips in no time. I personally hate players that limps in with crap cards just to see if they can flop something worthwhile. Put yourself ALL-IN and don't be so WISHY WASHY and INDECISIVE because in the end you just won't win.
morgan.de.toi
Mar 2 2006, 10:41 PM
why are you the love doctor?
KeN VeRsUs RyU
Mar 2 2006, 10:44 PM
QUOTE(= b u l u = @ Mar 2 2006, 08:41 PM) [snapback]1854685[/snapback]
why are you the love doctor?
i'm only the self-proclaimed love doctor.
Take it or leave it... Should I be the self-proclaimed love mechanic instead?
the one
Mar 2 2006, 10:45 PM
QUOTE(= b u l u = @ Mar 2 2006, 11:41 PM) [snapback]1854685[/snapback]
why are you the love doctor?
Because he's been through everything about love, regrets, hate, pain, etc.
Even through viruses such as AIDs and HIVs at the same time and cured himself through it.
morgan.de.toi
Mar 2 2006, 10:47 PM
^ LOL
TrueColorS
Mar 3 2006, 12:18 AM
i'm not sure if i trust my bf somtimes. he lied to me about once or twice before. but that was before we were officially together. although i do trust him most of the time now, but somtimes i still have doubts. it's not really good for the relationship because it's usually turns into something bigger than it should when i think he might be lying to me. how can i stop doubting him? i don't wanna keep on doubting him but i can't stop it. is there a way to actually test him?
mofo
Mar 3 2006, 12:53 AM
love doctor, i have a question
when a girl u like tells u that she thinks of u as a mother...is that a good or bad sign for me?
Love doctor, I suffer from terminal limerence. It begins as a barely perceptible feeling of increased interest in a particular person, but one which, if nurtured by appropriate conditions, can grow to enormous intensity. In most cases, it also declines, eventually to zero or to a low level. At this low level limerence is either transformed through reciprocation or it is transferred to another person who then becomes the new limerent object.
About 6 months ago, I met Man 1. We concluded after date 4 what it was exactly we both were looking for. I was content with being friends since we both didn't want a serious, monogamous relationship. After a few weeks, I became a little "bored" simply because I was planning most of our excursions. Then a month later, I meet Man 2. He's the total opposite of Man 1. He's assertive and I never have to worry about plans because he's got an array of suggestions for me (of course he lets me have the final say). But both men are in their own ways fabulous and I enjoy spending time with them. Once again, Man 2 and I also agreed on just being friends. Now, they both feel as if they want more. Not much more... but more. Yet, I know they're a little unsure because I'm happy with what we have. I'm "dating" and that's all I want to do although I'm flattered and smitten by both and can't seem to choose. Thus, I don't. The conclusion is that my infatuation bounces back between the both of them. If they're away, out of sight, out of mind. If they're around, then it's game on. Am I just indecisive or just plain selfish. Can I have my cake and the whole bakery... and eat it too? Don't answer. I know the obvious answer to that.
Alright, so what can I do to stop this hellish psychological cycle; incessant on vanquishing me mentally, emotionally, and physically?
I'm just messing with you, Dr, Love. If you consent to HIPPA compliance, I would be more than happy to tell you everything. I don't think my insurance covers this office visit at the Soompi Clinic, so I'll return to my prior PCP. But keep up the good work, doc.
somo
Mar 3 2006, 01:16 AM
is there something wrong if a person has never had a gf/bf for over 21 years? never kissed?
elementary bf/gf doesn't count.
KeN VeRsUs RyU
Mar 3 2006, 02:21 AM
QUOTE(JJM @ Mar 2 2006, 11:00 PM) [snapback]1856310[/snapback]
Love doctor, I suffer from terminal limerence. It begins as a barely perceptible feeling of increased interest in a particular person, but one which, if nurtured by appropriate conditions, can grow to enormous intensity. In most cases, it also declines, eventually to zero or to a low level. At this low level limerence is either transformed through reciprocation or it is transferred to another person who then becomes the new limerent object.
About 6 months ago, I met Man 1. We concluded after date 4 what it was exactly we both were looking for. I was content with being friends since we both didn't want a serious, monogamous relationship. After a few weeks, I became a little "bored" simply because I was planning most of our excursions. Then a month later, I meet Man 2. He's the total opposite of Man 1. He's assertive and I never have to worry about plans because he's got an array of suggestions for me (of course he lets me have the final say). But both men are in their own ways fabulous and I enjoy spending time with them. Once again, Man 2 and I also agreed on just being friends. Now, they both feel as if they want more. Not much more... but more. Yet, I know they're a little unsure because I'm happy with what we have. I'm "dating" and that's all I want to do although I'm flattered and smitten by both and can't seem to choose. Thus, I don't. The conclusion is that my infatuation bounces back between the both of them. If they're away, out of sight, out of mind. If they're around, then it's game on. Am I just indecisive or just plain selfish. Can I have my cake and the whole bakery... and eat it too? Don't answer. I know the obvious answer to that.
Alright, so what can I do to stop this hellish psychological cycle; incessant on vanquishing me mentally, emotionally, and physically?
I'm just messing with you, Dr, Love. If you consent to HIPPA compliance, I would be more than happy to tell you everything. I don't think my insurance covers this office visit at the Soompi Clinic, so I'll return to my prior PCP. But keep up the good work, doc.
I'm not quite sure if you are mocking me or asking a serious question but i have no knowlege of such ailment.
I am not medically inclined to give you any type of medicine.. but sound advice.
Terminal limerance sounds very serious (if indeed it is an illness.. but in my medical dictionary i have found nothing). It sounds as if you are limited but not bound to the relationships you have just described. I say "not bound" because, while you are "suffering from terminal limerance"... It sounds as if you have surrendered your love and personal life to this so called ailment.
Let's look at it in another way. How would you perceive this situation without "terminal limerance"? Answer should be plain and simple for a morally sound person such as yourself. It really sounds to me like you really just short on PATIENCE. Although i don't know how much this ailment afflicts your daily love/sexual decision making... I do not believe it is right to string men along no matter what you are suffering from. If you were a man i would suggest, "BE A MAN! FESS UP!" but you are a woman .. so i am obligated to be a bit more sensitive with my words.. so here it goes:
Take it or leave it... You are a woman of 2006. Just be thankful you're not a woman of 1956 in which terminal limerance would simply be misdiagnosed as a "slovenly woman" or simply.. a s-l-u-t.
KeN VeRsUs RyU
Mar 3 2006, 02:32 AM
QUOTE(somo @ Mar 2 2006, 11:16 PM) [snapback]1856443[/snapback]
is there something wrong if a person has never had a gf/bf for over 21 years? never kissed?
elementary bf/gf doesn't count.
Now, this is quite a question.
Am i going to assume that you are 21? In that case.. no there is nothing wrong. Am i going to assume that you are 21 and do not want a bf/gf and do not want to kiss? Again there are certain people who are just asexual with simply no sexual drive or attraction to any sex. It's not the norm, but there medicine to enhance the male sex drive (viagra) although there are currently no FDA approved medicine for women, its a matter of time before they do.
If you are in your 50's or 60's.. blame it on menopause.
If the reasons are beyond what i have just stated.. please state so.
Take it or leave it... Some people are just late bloomers.... don't feel so bad.. i know a 35 year old virgin who's probably never kissed anyone. There was even a movie about a 40 year old virgin... They're becoming very very popular so don't underestimate your innocence! It will be high bid on ebay one day!
PLEASE QUESTIONS ONLY.. NO SPAMMING OR CONVERSATIONS..
QUOTE(KeN VeRsUs RyU @ Mar 3 2006, 02:21 AM) [snapback]1857048[/snapback]
I'm not quite sure if you are mocking me or asking a serious question but i have no knowlege of such ailment.
I am not medically inclined to give you any type of medicine.. but sound advice.
Terminal limerance sounds very serious (if indeed it is an illness.. but in my medical dictionary i have found nothing). It sounds as if you are limited but not bound to the relationships you have just described. I say "not bound" because, while you are "suffering from terminal limerance"... It sounds as if you have surrendered your love and personal life to this so called ailment.
Let's look at it in another way. How would you perceive this situation without "terminal limerance"? Answer should be plain and simple for a morally sound person such as yourself. It really sounds to me like you really just short on PATIENCE. Although i don't know how much this ailment afflicts your daily love/sexual decision making... I do not believe it is right to string men along no matter what you are suffering from. If you were a man i would suggest, "BE A MAN! FESS UP!" but you are a woman .. so i am obligated to be a bit more sensitive with my words.. so here it goes:
Take it or leave it... You are a woman of 2006. Just be thankful you're not a woman of 1956 in which terminal limerance would simply be misdiagnosed as a "slovenly woman" or simply.. a s-l-u-t.
I'm not mocking you. In fact, you've done an impeccable job with your thorough and sound advice, filled with wit and unbias implications.
I am indeed thankful that I'm a woman of 2006. It's not so much as whatever anyone shall diagnose or misdiagnose me as, but that there are different life experiences, free thinking, and enough acceptance among the human race (or at least in my world), that I know how to deal with my personal situations and the lables others choose to give me or someone else. Frankly, I guess in this time and age, we can somewhat deduce that I'm simply acting like a... MAN.
KeN VeRsUs RyU
Mar 3 2006, 03:35 AM
QUOTE(TrueColorS @ Mar 2 2006, 10:18 PM) [snapback]1855861[/snapback]
i'm not sure if i trust my bf somtimes. he lied to me about once or twice before. but that was before we were officially together. although i do trust him most of the time now, but somtimes i still have doubts. it's not really good for the relationship because it's usually turns into something bigger than it should when i think he might be lying to me. how can i stop doubting him? i don't wanna keep on doubting him but i can't stop it. is there a way to actually test him?
Trust issues are very delicate to handle. One misguided step and it can be a land mine for disaster.
Ask yourself... What kind of person am i? Are you the type of person who gives their trust away, hoping that they won't break your trust? Or are you the type to not trust until it is earned? From your question, it seems to me as if you are the latter.
The more important question is... does he know what kind of trust person you are? And would he ever take advantage of it? In an ideal world we would treat trust as we would want our trust to be treated. But this isn't an ideal world.. and mistakes are made all the time. It is up to the decision maker to decide what their level of threshold is. more on the next paragraph.
What is a lie? a Misguided truth or simply "not the truth". If the lies he are telling are simply misguiding you and if its really no harm no foul.. then there really isn't a problem is there? On the other hand, if his lies are "HIDING" the truth, then it is up to you to decide whether you need to know what he's hiding and whether it affects your relationship or not. Remember, not all lies are necessarily bad. Just the intentions behind them.
If you were to look at you bf and describe his qualities and characteristics... would "not trustworthy" or "liar" be a part of that list? And more importantly, are you expecting him to lie? If you are then it is as much your fault than it is his. I am dealing with this issue with my gf, and my gf just assumes that everything that comes out of my mouth is negative and pessimistic when, in all honesty, its really not. So don't make the same mistake... my intentions weren't to put her down.. so maybe he's really not lying but you just perceive it that way. Many couples end their relationship because of this miscommunication.
Honesty. No.1 policy. How do we get there? Communication.. not just by him.. but attempted by you as well.
Take it or leave it... Tests are for SAT's and the DMV. Talk more Test less and you will inevitably score a 1600.
QUOTE(mofo @ Mar 2 2006, 10:53 PM) [snapback]1856238[/snapback]
love doctor, i have a question
when a girl u like tells u that she thinks of u as a mother...is that a good or bad sign for me?
I've heard of brother, cousin, uncle and even dad... but never a mother.
Although Freud suggests that men tend to find qualities in their mate much like their mother and vice versa with daughters and fathers, i've never really heard of qualities in men much like her mother. Confusing no?
Ask yourself, what was the context of what she was saying? Do you take care of her like her mother? Do you cook like her mother? Do you look like her mother? Do you nag like her mother? It's all in the context. What were you guys doing before and after she told you this? There are clues to everything.. piece them together and find out what she meant.
or simply just ask her what she meant.
Take it or leave it... Although, its somewhat creepy to think of your mother's qualities and characteristics in your future mate, It can't be all that bad... especially if your mom is a MILF.
SilentCircus
Mar 3 2006, 03:57 AM
my other half screams out "Haadouken" when he orgasms. in your opinion is he husband material?
KeN VeRsUs RyU
Mar 3 2006, 03:59 AM
QUOTE(SilentCircus @ Mar 3 2006, 01:57 AM) [snapback]1857579[/snapback]
my other half screams out "Haadouken" when he orgasms. in your opinion is he husband material?
If you don't mind wild mating calls, then why not?
Take it or leave it... There are far worse things he can say... like a guy's name.
hat3_betrayaL
Mar 3 2006, 05:50 AM
^ HAHA.
i'll ask you when i've got question but sad to say, currently i've got none.
koumi
Mar 3 2006, 07:06 AM
Please do not go off topic and any questions related to sex should be asked in the sex pinned thread.
KeN VeRsUs RyU
Mar 4 2006, 01:38 AM
Doctor is in to answer all your love queries.
Emerald Snow
Mar 4 2006, 01:44 AM
You always hear about a girl waiting for a certain guy to show his affections for her.......and if he doesn't, then she makes up excuses, saying that he's shy, he's afraid, blah blah blah, etc. Is it true that if a guy really is interested in a girl, then he would take action immediately, and not wait around according to the girls' excuses? And I'm not talking about cases where both are best friends or anything...........
Kotaro
Mar 4 2006, 01:54 AM
Hmm.
Let's see. I got a question.
I just recently broke off a relationship, which was a relief.
But now I like this guy in my class. His friend and some people know I like him. I comment his myspace a lot. He laughs at some of the random stuff I blurt out in class but I'm not sure if he thinks of me as anything, but I really want to ask him out, is it the worth the risk?
roentgen
Mar 4 2006, 01:58 AM
okay i won't go into much detail coz the story's way too long, but the crux of the situation is:
- i've had a lot of problems with my boyfriend for months now including negligence, trust and his obsession about saving face
- i've been thinking about breaking up with him for a while now
- the other day we had a huge argument to do with him losing face during which he was really angry with me and attacked me in front of all my friends
- i basically broke up with him then coz it seemed convenient
- he then realised he doesn't want to break up
- we parted still broken up, but with the knowledge that he wants to get back together
it's been days now that we haven't talked and i can't concentrate on anything til we've come to a decision.
qu: who should call first? should i wait for him to call or should i just do it?
yes i'm that immature and indecisive.
KeN VeRsUs RyU
Mar 4 2006, 02:09 AM
QUOTE(Emerald Snow @ Mar 3 2006, 11:44 PM) [snapback]1865441[/snapback]
You always hear about a girl waiting for a certain guy to show his affections for her.......and if he doesn't, then she makes up excuses, saying that he's shy, he's afraid, blah blah blah, etc. Is it true that if a guy really is interested in a girl, then he would take action immediately, and not wait around according to the girls' excuses? And I'm not talking about cases where both are best friends or anything...........
Good question.
Carl Jung is a renouned swiss psychiatrist. He's broken down personalities between introverted and extroverted types. Between those two types there are 8 different types of personality types so there are 16 altogether. i'm sure you've taken the test or at least seen it where your results end in a set of letters :entp, intp, enfp, enfj, infj.. etc. to take the test go to
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp and here are the results for each personality...http://typelogic.com
Now the reason why i even mentioned something like that.. is because my offical answer to your question is "IT REALLY DEPENDS"... There are certain people who are extroverted and love to show and receive affection.. then there are those who are introverted and love subtlety. Like I said.. it really depends. If you are that guy or girl waiting for the guy.. why don't you try this. Take the test and read the results. Then take another test and answer as best as you can as if you were the guy. Then read the results. You'll answer your own question in no time.
Take it or leave it... In this day and age are we still waiting for guys to ask girls??? COME ON GIRLS.... think every day as a sadie hawkins dance. Forget your inhibitions and humiliation. It's 2006.. not 1956. It's all about Girls Gone Wild.. not Happy Days.
ix3katz
Mar 4 2006, 02:15 AM
how do i stop taking him for granted? how do i stop expecting him to spend time with me? i know he has a life, and i have mine.
and yes, i should let him breath.. afterall we talk everyday, even if its jsut a bit.
but i just keep getting that upset feeling/disappointment... i can't help it.
and no i really can't talk to him about this
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